Ballingall's flat top cans Ireland and other non usa flats

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Ballingall's flat top cans Ireland and other non usa flats

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I have been on a roll lately, finding a lot of non USA cans.
Found these Ballingall's flat tops this week in a collection. Cant find any info on the cans at all. The brewery closed in 1964.
Any info would be helpful. I am probably going to add these to the ones going to auction if possible.
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Very nice!

Coming across a lot of non-US cans lately? Flat tops?

If you come across a Red Stripe flat from Jamaica, please let me know. Been looking for one for years.
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I got a Worthington's in a collection I bought years ago and learned that it's pretty common.

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Ballingall's??? Never heard of the brand, never heard of the brewery, never seen one at all. Got to be super tough cans. GREAT find!!
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A quote from Martell's Beer Can Collector's Bible, page 24.
BAVARIAN - Although not an American can, it is desired by most collectors as it was canned by a New Zealand Brewery especially for an American expedition. It was provided for Operation Deep Freeze, headed by Admiral Richard E. Byrd, starting in 1955 and spanning several years. Three different designs were made.
I think I got mine at the Frankenmuth show a couple years back for around $30. The tough one is the one with the castle on the front. Click to enlarge.

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MI-Cans wrote: Mon May 08, 2023 7:49 am A quote from Martell's Beer Can Collector's Bible, page 24.
BAVARIAN - Although not an American can, it is desired by most collectors as it was canned by a New Zealand Brewery especially for an American expedition. It was provided for Operation Deep Freeze, headed by Admiral Richard E. Byrd, starting in 1955 and spanning several years. Three different designs were made.
I think I got mine at the Frankenmuth show a couple years back for around $30. The tough one is the one with the castle on the front. Click to enlarge.


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Those are great-looking cans, the Ballingalls.

I had a high school classmate by that family name and I will tell you, it is not the most convenient name for a girl to have.
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Would love to have the chance to bid on the Ballingall's ... if you list them. Any chance you can post sides and seams?
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What do you want for the bavarian?
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As its a bit rare to find unkown cans these days, I thought it would be a nice story to write up. The brewery has a unique history.
The other cans not sure what prices yet. They are all in great shape. Im sure these were rolled by Chuck Foster in the 70s before he started putting his dimple marks on the lids OR it was from his mentor John Mccombie. The seams are straight but a little off to one side. No solder marks like Chuck usually did but again it could be from when he first started.
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Thanks for the pitures!

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Ballingall & Son Ltd began its life as the Pleasance Brewery, Dundee, Scotland, which seems almost certainly to have been established before 1750, although the founder is unknown. In the 1790s the business was acquired by Ebeneezer Anderson, a local merchant and Provost of Dundee .

Around 1809 a partnership was formed, consisting of Ebeneezer and his son James, and two local merchants, William Lindsay and David Jobson jnr, and was called The Pleasance Brewing Company. Anderson died and Jobson became insolvent, and so in 1819 there was a new partnership of five; Patrick Millar and his son, William Lindsay and his son, and Patrick Scott. Alfred Barnard, author of "Noted Breweries of Great Britain and Ireland", was of the opinion that James Ballingall, merchant of Overgate and councillor to the guild, was one of the partners.

In any event, in 1844 William Ballingall acquired and carried on the business under the new name of Ballingall & Son, until his death in 1856. His son Hugh succeeded him (apparently aged 16 years). He enlarged and rebuilt the old Pleasance Brewery premises, and added the Park Brewery in 1880/1881. In 1884 Hugh Ballingall was elected Provost of Dundee , maintaining the position until 1887. It was not until 1897 that Ballingall & Son was registered as a limited liability company with a capital of GBP 100,000.

When Hugh Ballingall died in 1910 his son James succeeded him. The last of the Ballingall dynasty, James, being the great grandson of the brewery's founder, resigned in 1960 when new management took over. In 1964 the brewery was taken over by Drybrough & Co Ltd, the licensed houses were acquired in 1968 and the brewery was finally closed that same year.
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